Pastor Accuses Bill Grady and Peter Ruckman of Teaching That the Church Goes Through the Tribulation

You can find this post on William Grady’s facebook.  Below is the post on William Grady’s facebook.

Last Tuesday I received a phone call from a concerned brother in North Carolina who told me that a well-known local pastor had just told his Sunday morning congregation that I believed the Church will enter the Tribulation. He also said that the late Peter S. Ruckman had propagated the same error. (See attached internet clip at the 49-50 minute mark, Bright Light Baptist Church, August 20, 2017).  You can watch the video at Bright Light Baptist Church.

Of course, for the record, neither I nor Dr. Ruckman, have ever taught that the Church will go through any part of the seven-year Tribulation period. In my case, I was blessed to have been saved (forty-three years ago today, no less) at the historic Marcus Hook Baptist Church in Lynwood, PA, home church of Clarence Larkin, author of “Dispensational Truth: God’s Plan and Purpose in the Ages,” regarded as the definitive work on premillennial dispensationalism. Then, having surrendered to preach a few months later, I was promptly grounded in the pre-Tribulation rapture at the equally historic Philadelphia College of Bible, co-founded by Larkin’s contemporary, Dr. C. I. Scofield, editor of the Scofield Reference Bible, promoting the pre-Trib position. Over the years I have worn out several Scofield Bibles.

Finally, the timing of this allegation is quite ironic. My latest book, “Holy Ground: The True History of the State of Israel,” actually excoriates nut jobs like Steven Anderson for promoting the same position that I am now being accused of holding. (Dr. Jerry Rockwell, who wrote the Foreword, received his initial training in the premillennial, dispensational interpretation of the Scriptures at Dallas Theological Seminary, earning an MA in Biblical Studies in 1984.)

The pastor in question is Ronnie Simpson. This entire incident is regrettable, as Dr. Simpson has been a strong preacher for many years. I also happen to know (first-hand) that he has a wonderful family. He should also be commended for wanting to keep the Bride of Christ out of the time of Jacob’s Trouble. Unfortunately, however, Dr. Simpson has maintained an inordinate animosity for the late Peter S. Ruckman, the one man who did more to solidify the King James Only position than any ten other preachers combined; AND EVERY HONEST PREACHER KNOWS THIS!

Dr. Ruckman used to shrug off this unhealthy fixation as “Ruckmanitis.” Regardless of what you call it, It certainly makes preachers act inconsistent with their normal character level. For instance, while I tried to reach out to Simpson to request a retraction, he refused to return my calls. Also, there is no logical reason why he should think that I believe the Church will enter the Tribulation. When you have over 100,000 books in print, it’s kind of hard to hide what you believe. For instance, my position on the pre-Tribulation rapture is most recently laid out on pages 783-86 of “Holy Ground.” I have already sold over 3,000 copies of this book, hundreds to churches all over North Carolina. Dr. Sammy Allen even sells it in the Faith Baptist Camp bookstore.

Like I said, “Ruckmanitis” can really mess with your mind. When Dr. Simpson read my first book, “Final Authority,” he acted as though he thought I hung the moon. Besides inviting me to preach to his church on a Sunday morning, he even invited me to be the keynote speaker at one of his college graduation services. (There used to be a picture of me in the Carolina Bible College catalogue.) A family member told me that I was one of only three men who had an open invitation to preach in his pulpit at any time. All that changed when Simpson discovered the source of all my insight on the King James Bible; you guessed it, Peter Ruckman. Like they say, “The best of men are men at best” and “Great men have great weaknesses.”

I will now spend the rest of the day reliving that glorious Sunday morning of 43 years ago when the Lord delivered me from the satanic clutches of popery! Praise His Holy Name!!

(Allow me to head off the anticipated horde of anti-pre-Trib rapture, anti-Ruckman, and anti-Scofield debate mongers at the pass; save your breath, as the sole purpose of this post is to clear the air regarding the false claim of Ronnie Simpson.)

 

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3 Replies to “Pastor Accuses Bill Grady and Peter Ruckman of Teaching That the Church Goes Through the Tribulation”

  1. [Here’s a different take on Doug Stauffer & the 2016 debate. Saw it on the net.]

    Wandave Wandave
    Fri 8/24, 1:38 PM wandave1226@outlook
    Re Margaret MacDonald, here’s what Dr. F. Nigel Lee stated: “Dave MacPherson, in his various books, has made a major contribution toward vindicating Historic Christian Eschatology. The 1830 innovations of the disturbed Margaret Macdonald documented by MacPherson—-in part or in whole—-immediately spread to Edward Irving and his followers, then to J. N. Darby and Plymouth Brethrenism, and were later popularized by the dispensationalistic Scofield Reference Bible, by Classic Pentecostalism, and by latter-day pretribulationists like J. F. Walvoord and Hal Lindsey.” (Dr. Lee stated this as the holder of nine EARNED doctorates [!] and as Australia’s most eminent evangelical scholar!) Google “X-Raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Main Point” and “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart” to find out what Dr. Stauffer censored. Stauffer’s “research” failed to notice that even Hal Lindsey calls Margaret a partial rapturist in his book “The Rapture.” And Walvoord’s “The Rapture Question” refers to partial rapturists as “pretribulationists” (p. 105) – pretribs who, in their “rapture charts” see “church” BEFORE the rapture as well as seeing “church” AFTER the rapture; they are “church splitters”! It’s amazing how many pretrib defenders have seized on Margaret’s statement “The trial of the Church is from Antichrist” and then gotten into a tizzy in public while ranting and screaming that “Margaret was a posttrib” or, even worse, that she was demon-possessed or in a trance or that “MacPherson has covered up many before 1830 who clearly taught pretrib”!!! Google “Scholars Weigh My Research” to find out other evangelical leaders who have endorsed MacPherson’s research since 1970. Also Google “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Pretrib Rapture Stealth,” “C. I. Scofield’s Hidden Side,” “Famous Rapture Watchers” and “Dr. Watson’s Pretrib Non-Discovery” – just some of the hot articles on the British blog “Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing” hosted by noted teacher Treena Gisborn. BTW, this past July 5th, pretribber Dr. Erwin Lutzer told a packed Moody Church that there are now posttribs as well as pretribs among the MBI personnel, adding “Here at the Moody Church we have decided to not draw a line in the sand about these two views.” (!) But MBI is only reflecting the many worldwide who are now abandoning pretrib for other rapture views – and scary world events are helping to bring about the collapse of the 188-year-old pretrib fantasy!

    1. While it may be interesting to read what others say about the pre-trib rapture, what really matters is what does the Bible teach about the pre-trib rapture of the church. There is a difference in the way the Bible refers to the pre-trib rapture of the church and the second coming of Christ.

      2 Thessalonians 1:6 (KJV) Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
      2 Thessalonians 1:7 (KJV) And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
      2 Thessalonians 1:8 (KJV) In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
      2 Thessalonians 1:9 (KJV) Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
      2 Thessalonians 1:10 (KJV) When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

      2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 is an example of how the Bible refers to the second coming of Christ. The Lord is coming back “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ”. Now compare 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. These verses are not about the same event. These are two separate events that are not the same and not happening at the same time.

      1 Thessalonians 4:13 (KJV) ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
      1 Thessalonians 4:14 (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
      1 Thessalonians 4:15 (KJV) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
      1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      1 Thessalonians 4:17 (KJV) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      1 Thessalonians 4:18 (KJV) Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

      1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is how the Bible refers to the pre-trib rapture of the church. 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 are not the same events. There is a seven year period between these two events. This seven year period is the great tribulation. The spirit of the time that we live in is to make everything the same. This does not work with the Bible. To learn the Bible one must study differences in the Bible. There is a difference between the pre-trib rapture of the church and the second coming of Christ.

      Another problem with the Bible is that the order of the books in the Bible are laid out in a pre-trib rapture of the church, tribulation, second coming of Christ order. Two of the greatest passages of scripture are 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Both of these passages of scripture are wrote by Paul the apostle to the Gentiles in books to the church.

      1 Corinthians 1:2 (KJV) Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

      1 Thessalonians 1:1 (KJV) ¶ Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

      After Paul’s writings to the primarily Gentile church, the next books laid out in the King James Bible are Hebrews, James, Peter, John and Jude. These writers are the apostles to the circumcission, the Jews or nation of Israel. There is a transition from the church back to the Jews. The nation of Israel is the one that goes through the tribulation not the church.

      Galatians 2:7 (KJV) But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

      Galatians 2:9 (KJV) And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

  2. It’s interesting that journalist Dave MacPherson has done on-site research inside the famous British Library in London. Interesting also that he has stated that the OTHER works of the King James Bible scholars in that library don’t have even a hint of a pretrib rapture – even in any of the best known pretrib “proof texts” like Rev. 3:10. If the KJB scholars couldn’t find any pretrib rapture teaching in the NT manuscripts they handled, how on earth can anyone else claim to find pretrib teaching in the King James Bible? I’m not angry with anyone, just wondering about all this. Lord bless.

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